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		<title>By: Adelyn</title>
		<link>http://www.designingthenews.com/2008/05/09/outdoor-pictogram-headlines/comment-page-1/#comment-474</link>
		<dc:creator>Adelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 06:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just stumbled upon this and realized the discussion is now three years old. But anyway, this seems like an interesting idea, a starting point for news for the illiterate perhaps. 

I&#039;m a native Chinese speaker. The Chinese characters have evolved immensely since its pictorial beginning. So writing the headlines in modern Chinese characters wouldn&#039;t look like pictures. But the wonderful thing about it is, even if one has never seen a particular character before, one can probably figure the rough meaning of it from the way the character is being formed, thanks to its pictorial origins. It&#039;s a very beautiful language and I agree we should all learn it. 

I&#039;m not sure what happened with the pictogram headlines after three years since it was launched, but it sure made me smile today. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just stumbled upon this and realized the discussion is now three years old. But anyway, this seems like an interesting idea, a starting point for news for the illiterate&nbsp;perhaps. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a native Chinese speaker. The Chinese characters have evolved immensely since its pictorial beginning. So writing the headlines in modern Chinese characters wouldn&#8217;t look like pictures. But the wonderful thing about it is, even if one has never seen a particular character before, one can probably figure the rough meaning of it from the way the character is being formed, thanks to its pictorial origins. It&#8217;s a very beautiful language and I agree we should all learn&nbsp;it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what happened with the pictogram headlines after three years since it was launched, but it sure made me smile today.&nbsp;:)</p>
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		<title>By: John Bennetts</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Bennetts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re not already aware of Blissymbols, suggest that you look at the entry of that name in Wikipedia. It is a system invented by Charles K. Bliss in the 1940&#039;s / 50&#039;s which was intended to provide an international sign language. No one was interested in using it that way but it has since been adopted for enabling the physically handicapped to communicate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re not already aware of Blissymbols, suggest that you look at the entry of that name in Wikipedia. It is a system invented by Charles K. Bliss in the 1940&#8217;s / 50&#8217;s which was intended to provide an international sign language. No one was interested in using it that way but it has since been adopted for enabling the physically handicapped to&nbsp;communicate.</p>
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		<title>By: pictogram</title>
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		<dc:creator>pictogram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 04:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Charlie Salazar &#187; Outdoor pictogram headlines // Designing The News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie Salazar &#187; Outdoor pictogram headlines // Designing The News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 05:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] pictogram headlines // Designing The News    Posted May 21, 2008    The idea would be that a simple application would pull headlines from the BBC News website, or any [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] pictogram headlines // Designing The News    Posted May 21, 2008    The idea would be that a simple application would pull headlines from the BBC News website, or any&nbsp;[&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 21:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cara,

Nice take on it. What I found out though while trying to do this was that as headlines are already heavily condensed fragments, sometimes it can be very difficult to shrink it down even more. Alot of the time nearly all words are needed to make any sense of it. Thanks for your input.

Jeff,

Wondering if the Chinese can just write headlines like we would write them, but they look like pictures anyway?

Rami,

Nice find. Just wondering how the icons would scale for use on projection areas and large screen displays. Looks a little to rich I think for that. I could be wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cara,</p>
<p>Nice take on it. What I found out though while trying to do this was that as headlines are already heavily condensed fragments, sometimes it can be very difficult to shrink it down even more. Alot of the time nearly all words are needed to make any sense of it. Thanks for your&nbsp;input.</p>
<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>Wondering if the Chinese can just write headlines like we would write them, but they look like pictures&nbsp;anyway?</p>
<p>Rami,</p>
<p>Nice find. Just wondering how the icons would scale for use on projection areas and large screen displays. Looks a little to rich I think for that. I could be&nbsp;wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Rami</title>
		<link>http://www.designingthenews.com/2008/05/09/outdoor-pictogram-headlines/comment-page-1/#comment-224</link>
		<dc:creator>Rami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 11:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here is a company that trying to make money from the same idea:
http://www.zlango.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here is a company that trying to make money from the same idea:<br />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.zlango.com" >http://www.zlango.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 14:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Some symbols work better than others. ... So I think it has some potential.&quot;

Absolutely, Dave. Plenty of potential, and I think Cara&#039;s comment above points in the right direction. I hope you didn&#039;t get the idea that I&#039;m completely dismissing what you&#039;re doing. I think it&#039;s very worthwhile, and I may not have indicated that clearly enough.

Some time ago, I commented here about the pictographic nature of the Chinese language. Maybe we should learn Chinese! It&#039;s really almost exactly what you&#039;re talking about, plus what Cara is saying, plus about a thousand years of functional evolution. So if we subtracted that thousand years and put it in a modern global context ...

I think it would be great to get input from someone who is fluent in Chinese, a student of Chinese calligraphy, and understands where you&#039;re going with this. Is any such person reading this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Some symbols work better than others. &#8230; So I think it has some&nbsp;potential.&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely, Dave. Plenty of potential, and I think Cara&#8217;s comment above points in the right direction. I hope you didn&#8217;t get the idea that I&#8217;m completely dismissing what you&#8217;re doing. I think it&#8217;s very worthwhile, and I may not have indicated that clearly&nbsp;enough.</p>
<p>Some time ago, I commented here about the pictographic nature of the Chinese language. Maybe we should learn Chinese! It&#8217;s really almost exactly what you&#8217;re talking about, plus what Cara is saying, plus about a thousand years of functional evolution. So if we subtracted that thousand years and put it in a modern global context&nbsp;&#8230;</p>
<p>I think it would be great to get input from someone who is fluent in Chinese, a student of Chinese calligraphy, and understands where you&#8217;re going with this. Is any such person reading&nbsp;this?</p>
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		<title>By: Cara Pinle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cara Pinle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 08:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your pictogram headline is a very interesting idea I enjoyed it. 
How about instead of illustrating every words to describe the news, illustrate one that the most important key word in the sentence to get people’s attention. 
For example, [Pig farmer jailed for six murders] create “6 murders” pictogram. Audiences might be interested in and want to know more “who did it”, “then what happened” … etc,. Well, it might not call “pictogram headline” any more?! This is just my thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your pictogram headline is a very interesting idea I enjoyed it.<br />
How about instead of illustrating every words to describe the news, illustrate one that the most important key word in the sentence to get people’s attention.<br />
For example, [Pig farmer jailed for six murders] create “6 murders” pictogram. Audiences might be interested in and want to know more “who did it”, “then what happened” … etc,. Well, it might not call “pictogram headline” any more?! This is just my&nbsp;thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 15:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,

The plunger and the other symbols up there were just quick sketches that I outlined in Illustrator as an experiment. Some are more immediately recognisable than others I admit, but hopefully having a more thought out symbol, and then using the adjacent symbols to help decipher the headline, users will be able to read/see it.

Some symbols work better than others. Animals for example should be a perfect subject for a pictogram. A cow is a cow no matter what country you&#039;re from. Same for a lion, a tiger, or a rhino. So I think it has some potential.

Plus I think there&#039;s a benefit to having a tricky pictogram in the middle of the headline. For one if there&#039;s a few people standing around trying to work it out then it becomes a common talking point, and forces users to interact to solve it. Two heads, as it were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>The plunger and the other symbols up there were just quick sketches that I outlined in Illustrator as an experiment. Some are more immediately recognisable than others I admit, but hopefully having a more thought out symbol, and then using the adjacent symbols to help decipher the headline, users will be able to read/see&nbsp;it.</p>
<p>Some symbols work better than others. Animals for example should be a perfect subject for a pictogram. A cow is a cow no matter what country you&#8217;re from. Same for a lion, a tiger, or a rhino. So I think it has some&nbsp;potential.</p>
<p>Plus I think there&#8217;s a benefit to having a tricky pictogram in the middle of the headline. For one if there&#8217;s a few people standing around trying to work it out then it becomes a common talking point, and forces users to interact to solve it. Two heads, as it&nbsp;were.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Magnetbox - links for 2008-05-10</dc:creator>
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